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Greetings for all, psyhistorik.
I had already received much precious informations from you, and more than simple informations, nice clues to (re)construct all a methodological path to think historical process in psychology. But let me ask again about something not so deep, but, at least curious too me, before any causal relationship establishment... It's about the year 1931 again. As we know, it was in this year that we have a decree about reorientation in Educational Politics to all URSS (in van der Veer's understanding), and it was too an year in that an apparently paedology-favorable decree was proclamed (Постановление СНК РСФСР от7 марта 1931 года «Об организации педологической работы в республике) which was posteriorly cancelated by the famous 1936 resolution about paedologists and paedology. But now I will ask you for help, one more time, about another resolution of Central Comity of Communist Party URSS. It's about January, 25 1931. I have some notice about it in Ferenc Fehér (an entry to "Soviet marxism" - in Tom Bottomore "A Dictionary of marxist thought", from Oxford, 1983). I will try to pass from my Portuguese version to English:
Is this correct?
Can you suggest me any way by which I could read the original document from January, 25 1931? I'm specially interested in: what actually was those "new ways of administrative supervision of intellectual life"?
Thank you very, very much.
Achilles.
I had already received much precious informations from you, and more than simple informations, nice clues to (re)construct all a methodological path to think historical process in psychology. But let me ask again about something not so deep, but, at least curious too me, before any causal relationship establishment... It's about the year 1931 again. As we know, it was in this year that we have a decree about reorientation in Educational Politics to all URSS (in van der Veer's understanding), and it was too an year in that an apparently paedology-favorable decree was proclamed (Постановление СНК РСФСР от7 марта 1931 года «Об организации педологической работы в республике) which was posteriorly cancelated by the famous 1936 resolution about paedologists and paedology. But now I will ask you for help, one more time, about another resolution of Central Comity of Communist Party URSS. It's about January, 25 1931. I have some notice about it in Ferenc Fehér (an entry to "Soviet marxism" - in Tom Bottomore "A Dictionary of marxist thought", from Oxford, 1983). I will try to pass from my Portuguese version to English:
- " A second phase was marked by destruction of two antagonistic groups, the mechanicists and the Deborinists, which theoretical disputation was around of the fact that the firsts (with who Bukharin had distant relation) denied the independent existence, or the relevance, of a marxist philosophy and considered natural sciences as a materialization of a marxist world view. Deborin an his group, by the other side, orthodox followers of Plekhanov, claimed the orientation of marxist philosophy in all scientific research. The debate, that extended itself for years, gives a good chance to the establishment of the collective authority of the party and of the personal authority of Stalin over the theoretical questions. For the first time, since 1917, a session of the Central Comity of the Party (January, 25, 1931) approved a resolution about purely theoretical questions, condemning the two groups, moving away academics from their positions and adopted new ways of administrative supervision of the intellectual life" (Fehér, 1983/1988 - p. 253)...
Is this correct?
Can you suggest me any way by which I could read the original document from January, 25 1931? I'm specially interested in: what actually was those "new ways of administrative supervision of intellectual life"?
Thank you very, very much.
Achilles.
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Date: 2010-03-07 07:20 pm (UTC)pavlov does look like 'mechanicist' and was labeled as such as well as some of his followers. his marxist contribution was to erase 'ideal' from brain's functionality and to make shift to proactive research (e.g. - constructing conditional reflexes). you are mixing people and ideas - deborin could be defending marxist science omnipresence with all his heart; be blamed for not defending it well enough and destroyed, in order, for others to defend it even stronger.
after нÑп was destroyed, only carving a particular type of niche (too important or totally unimportant for state to get involved) allow one to have a somewhat autonomic scientific thinking.
i meant - scans it before i do.
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Date: 2010-03-07 10:00 pm (UTC)Humm... This make much more sense... I was supposing a third (dialectical) way to the two last opposite trends, that did not would proposed by the Party, any way. Now I understand... He was not so papist has the Pope... I am un-mixing better now. Thank you.
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Date: 2010-03-08 02:31 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-03-08 04:03 am (UTC)life of his ideas in soviet science is another story (and another one abour his western infulences). he was respected by authorities starting with lenin and had his own space for work independent from state. appropriation of his ideas were as usual done with a butchering knife and as u rightly said for political purposes. again, there is a lot of known and still hidden pieces of the puzzle.
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Date: 2010-03-08 07:55 am (UTC)"That scientific differences of opinion did not exclude civilized behavior in the older generation of Russian psychologists is proved by Pavlov who on occasion of the opening of Chelpanov's Institute wrote his colleague the following lines: "he who fully excludes any mention of subjective states from his laboratory sends his cordial congratulations to the Institute of Psychology and its founder" (Luria, 1979, p. 29). Pavlov also explicitly condemned Chelpanov's dismissal and offered him to head a psychological section in his own laboratory (Umrikhin, 1994)". (p. 25 Cambridge Companion).
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